This is not about policy or about deals: it is about who we are. This bill does nothing to help the security services to gain more information or foil more plots. All it does is give them an unfair advantage in cases where they are accused of kidnapping and torture. Again, anyone who cannot see that is fundamentally wrong and not liberal.Howarth also had a message for Tom McNally, Liberal Democrat leader in the House of Lords:
Tom, I know the Lords can stop this bill. You know the Lords can stop this bill. They should stop this bill.